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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: Senator Franken? Reply with quote

Franken's running for Senate!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'll win, this is the same state that elected Jesse Ventura governor.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Paul Wellstone.

He'll also win because the guy he's running against is a grade A motard.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have nothing against Franken's positions, but if he is to join the US Senate let us hope he develops a lot more bearing than he currently has. But at the same time I'm concerned over all the "celebrity" politicians (like Ahnold) who get elected strictly because they got a face and a name, while the quiet people who rise through ranks because they do their job will get kicked out and be replaced by those media freaks.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it refreshing that he just overtly says "you should be skeptical about me; I have no political experience." That's a very non-politically-savvy thing to say. Which in a sense, is a political move in itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course we should be skeptical -- and his move isn't savvy, nor is it a statement made out of honesty. That's what you expect every political wannabe trying to embody "Reform" to say. Once elected, watch how quickly they learn the game and conform to the system that put them there in the first place.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Paquin wrote:
I have nothing against Franken's positions, but if he is to join the US Senate let us hope he develops a lot more bearing than he currently has.


what do you mean by "bearing?"

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But at the same time I'm concerned over all the "celebrity" politicians (like Ahnold) who get elected strictly because they got a face and a name, while the quiet people who rise through ranks because they do their job will get kicked out and be replaced by those media freaks.


do you realize how few people get "kicked out" of office? the incumbency re-election rate is something like over 90%.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben wrote:
what do you mean by "bearing?"


Well, you know, behave more... senatorly? Can't stand people who go into politics for the shouting match.

Ben wrote:
do you realize how few people get "kicked out" of office? the incumbency re-election rate is something like over 90%.


I was not thinking in terms of losing the election, but of losing the party nomination. Happens all the time here in Canada -- a big name (or friend of the party) wants to run, the party executive railroads him/her in, even though that person has no connection to the riding he/she is running into, because a riding has a "stronghold" reputation, and because the candidate is a celebrity.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He'll also win because the guy he's running against is a grade A motard.


Like that's ever kept anyone from getting elected.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Paquin wrote:
I was not thinking in terms of losing the election, but of losing the party nomination. Happens all the time here in Canada -- a big name (or friend of the party) wants to run, the party executive railroads him/her in, even though that person has no connection to the riding he/she is running into, because a riding has a "stronghold" reputation, and because the candidate is a celebrity.


To be fair:

1) Franken has shown plenty of grasp of the issues over the past several years, being as he talks about them each day on his radio gig. I'm no big fan, especially of his comedy, but I'll give him credit for knowing what he's talking about.

2) He was kinda born and raised in Minnesota - he's hardly a ringer.

3) To be sure, he ain't the establishment choice. They tend to prefer the guys who'll say what they're told to say, whereas Franken has spent as much time kicking Democrats for their shortcomings these last few years as he has Republicans. As it should be.

4) The celebrity candidate is hardly a new phenomenon. Anyone hear of a guy named Reagan? Sonny Bono? Gopher? Hell, there's been 'name' candidates for as long as there's been candidates.
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