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Concerning Michael Mann's "Heat"...

 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject: Concerning Michael Mann's "Heat"... Reply with quote

Wouldn't it have made a lot more sense for the police to tail the getaway car from the bank heist rather than trying to take the crew with firepower in downtown with all the people around?

And how about waiting to take Waingro out when they were someplace more private than right outside a diner in the parking lot? (And, hey, banging somneone's head on the table in a crowded diner isn't exactly the best way to be low-key and unnoticable.)

And why waste time going through all those packages in the armored car than just taking them all and finding the Van Sant bearer bonds among them later?

And why would a tight-net crew take on a wild card like Waingro who they've never worked with before?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just an action picture. Above all, the dialogue is complex enough to allow the characters to say what they're thinking: They are eloquent, insightful, fanciful, poetic when necessary. They're not trapped with cliches.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Concerning Michael Mann's "Heat"... Reply with quote

Jack Sommersby wrote:
Wouldn't it have made a lot more sense for the police to tail the getaway car from the bank heist rather than trying to take the crew with firepower in downtown with all the people around?


There was no time. They got the tip practically at the last stinking second. They saw that they were already were coming out of the bank, so they packed the rifles and went for it. They couldn't risk tailing them, because they just got dumped the night before, so they knew that Neil and Co. we're capable of not only spotting them, but dumping them again.


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And how about waiting to take Waingro out when they were someplace more private than right outside a diner in the parking lot? (And, hey, banging somneone's head on the table in a crowded diner isn't exactly the best way to be low-key and unnoticable.)


Depends also on the type of neighborhood where the diner is located. There are places in LA where its so infested with criminals, that you're better off minding your own business rather than looking across and see what the next bunch of guys are doing in the table in front of you. This sort of thing can also apply as to why there was no problem taking Waingro out in the parking lot, save for that cop car that was near which was all that Waingro needed to slip out.. In several street crime movies, you see neighborhoods subject to shootouts and robbings yet more often than not, people rather keep to themselves for their own safety.


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And why waste time going through all those packages in the armored car than just taking them all and finding the Van Sant bearer bonds among them later?


1. They had the time to search (3:00)
2. Taking all the packages would've increased the heat on them. The last thing they need is take a package that unbeknownst to them is insured by the federal government or some hotshot, and then you'll have the FBI and bounty hunters tracking you down. The whole objective is to take the package and get away with as little heat as possible.

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And why would a tight-net crew take on a wild card like Waingro who they've never worked with before?


Recommendation gone bad. They needed an extra man for the job, time is short, so they got one. This isn't like regular jobs, where you get asked for your references, ya know?

Just like in Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Blonde was brought in on the job since he was a friend of the Father and Son that planned the jewlery store holdup, Mr. White had never worked with him, but came from the "family", so he assumed he could be trusted upon, and then he went crazy, to the point that Mr. White even reprimanded him telling him that if he had known how reckless he was, he never would've chosen to work with him.
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