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Most Charismatic Movie Villain of All Time!
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Most Charismatic Movie Villain of All Time?
Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman - "Die Hard")
27%
 27%  [ 3 ]
Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins - "Lambs", "Hannibal" & "Red Dragon"
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
John Milton (Al Pacino - "The Devil's Advocate")
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
Clarence Boddiker (Kurtwood Smith - "Robocop")
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Wendy Kroy (Linda Florentino - "The Last Seduction")
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen - "Reservoir Dogs")
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
Gary Oldman (Various roles)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Dr. Evil (Mike Meyers - "Austin Powers")
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
Deacon Frost (Stephen Dorff - "Blade")
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
OTHER (please specify)
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 11

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 1:33 pm    Post subject: Most Charismatic Movie Villain of All Time! Reply with quote

The Rulez:

No monsters or aliens or generic masked axe murderers or just plain nasty, brutal, and disturbed people. These are the kind of villains that make you think "Even though I know they're going to stab me in the back, ruin my life, break my heart, steal my soul, Eat my liver, cut off my ear (or toe), or bash my fucking brains in - I still wanna Party with them!" Twisted Evil

If anyone in the "other" category gets suggested three times, they get added to the poll. If anyone listed gets a removal suggestion more than three times, they get ditched as soon as there is someone new with three referrals to replace them (in the interest of trying to keep the list down to roughly ten choices).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clarence Boddicker - Robocop
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one! He almost made the list, but I threw Sharon Stone's psycho bitch on there because I felt it needed another female to round things out. If one more person nominates Clarence I'll third it and add him.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Lithgow as Emil Lizzardo/John Wharfen in Buckaroo Banzai. That's a hard villian to top.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we miss the point ever-so-slightly. Boddicker is a fan-fricking-tabulous villain, and certainly a personal favorite...but "charismatic"? I dunno...he was mainly a sleazebag with some muscle behind him who sold out his employer as soon as he got beat on good. I don't think charisma is an essential part of the character...not like Rickman as Hans Gruber, for example.

Same thing with Lizzardo. They're GREAT villains...but charismatic? Dunno about that. They'd certainly belong on a great villains list with most of the other participants in the poll, but I don't buy them fitting here.

I'll leave it to McKay to run his poll however he damn pleases, however.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I dunno. I think Clarence is pretty charismatic, even though he is a complete and utter scumbag. I mean, if ever you needed a pal to shoot cops, fire high-power rifles that blow up cars, and snort blow out of the cleavage of hookers with, he'd be your man. Besides, I love me some Kurtwood Smith.

I agree on Lizardo though. Amusing, yes. But a fun guy to be around? No. Would you want to get high with that motherfucker when he's bouncing off the walls like that? I think not.

Still, I leave it to the majority. All it takes is three votes to add or remove someone, so plug away.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Tim Roth in Rob Roy. In fact, he's the only thing in the movie I did like. He was smarmy but so charismatic. You wanted to watch him ruin lives just for the joy of seeing him glory in it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Toecutter and Dr Evil ARE charismatic? Garn!

Okay....howsabout Nick Cage in Face/Off? Or Tim Roth in Rob Roy?
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natasha, I swear I didn't read your post! Booyah!~
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

er, those were me...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's two for Roth in "Rob Roy". One more an he joins the list.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went with Anthony Hopkins -- But I also think Mark Wahlburg in FEAR was waaay creepy!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't think Boddicker is charismatic? With the way he flirts with Dick Jones' secretary? The way he casually says "Bitches, leave!"

Tim Roth in Rob Roy is a great call, I'll stick with Clarence.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 6:44 pm    Post subject: A little clarification... Reply with quote

If we're talking the strictest definition of 'charismatic', then this is moot, but if we're just talking drop dead grand movie villains... hello? Rutger Hauer in The Hitcher? Jesus fuck, I can't walk past a semi-trailer to this day without wondering...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I thought about him, but he was a little too on the scary side. I WOULDN'T want to party with that dude at all. He was more of a "pure evil" kind of villain. Even someone as psycho as the Toecutter was pretty amusing, albeit unstable.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

christopher walken in prophecy. he goes "shh", and you're dead. i want that.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 9:43 pm    Post subject: Well... Reply with quote

If we're talking Walken, look no further than True Romance. Holy cow, that scene with Dennis Hopper, I honestly haven't sat through a better showdown than that. Ever.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2002 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Tim Curry in Legend?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but oz, he goes shhh, and you're dead. and he kisses his finger, and you're on fire.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 3:13 pm    Post subject: yeah but... Reply with quote

he also goes "you're a canteloupe!" and has your hand tendons severed.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of True Romance, I think that Oldman makes for a pretty charismatic villain as well. Any takers?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's charasmatic, because you can't keep your eyes off of him. But, at the same time, you certainly wouldn't want him watching you.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very true. He's just so quirky in every villain role he does. The guy in "The Professional" with that pill-swallowing freak-out routine he does. Or Zorg in "Fifth Element" with that goofy fuckin' hair and wierd accent. I think the dreadlocked psycho in "True Romance" was his best work, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I also really like his performance in State of Grace.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2002 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Someone else has seen the Joanou mini-classic? Cool!
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