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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Video game porn! Reply with quote

Media watchdog group denounces hidden porno in popular video game

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A U.S. media watchdog group denounced the maker of the hugely popular video game Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas on Friday over graphic sexual content that allegedly exists in the game and can be unlocked with an Internet download.

The game's plot is already objectionable to many people: its main character carjacks for fun and profit and picks up women along the way. But some say its content becomes sexually explicit if players download and install a modification to the game - one of many so-called "mods" available on websites maintained by video game enthusiasts.

"While San Andreas is already full of violent behaviour and sexual themes, the pornographic sex scenes push it over the edge," said David Walsh, founder of the Minneapolis-based National Institute on the Media and the Family, which issued a "nationwide parental alert" Friday.

The controversy has prompted an investigation by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board, which determines the rating on every video game sold. Rockstar Games issued a statement Friday, confirming the investigation and avoiding comment on whether its programmers created the sex scenes in the first place.

"We also feel confident that the investigation will uphold the original rating of the game, as the work of the mod community is beyond the scope of either publishers or the ESRB," the company said.

The mod's author - Patrick Wildenborg, 36, of Deventer, Netherlands - said Friday his code merely unlocks content that is already included in the code of each off-the-shelf game. "If Rockstar Games denies that, then they're lying and I will be able to prove that," Wildenborg wrote in an e-mail.

"My mod does not introduce anything to the game. All the content that is shown was already present on the DVD."

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/news/shownews.jsp?content=e070843A
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neat.

Oh, and here's a memo to pious cockface busybodies:

If it offends you, don't fucking buy it. Turdface pricks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, no shit. People raised a stink over a supposedly nude "skin" you could unlock for the characters in DOA: Beach Volleyball. Turned out to be a complete rumor.

Imagine my disappointment Twisted Evil But hell, like Sony would ever have the balls to let a Playstation title go there. Trust me folks, if video game porn ever actually happens on a console, it'll be on the Xbox first.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last time one of these shitbird rumors ever actually paid off, it was in that Disney movie "The Rescuers" where they actually did have a tv with a Brit slut bouncing her tits around in the background of a scene. Good luck finding a copy of that now. As for GTA- well shit, the fact that one of your jobs in Vice City is to run a film studio utilizing Jenna Jamison as your starlett should tip one off as to the type of content running in this franchise- as if the prosties getting into your car and rocking you back to good health don't already.

My God, Jesus Christ who I personally slew with a two by four with a nail banged through it so I could torture you in cookie form and make my matzah from the blood of the children of your followers (and to make Mel Gibson a shitload of money), please save me from your holy roller asswipes further mucking with my entertainment content.

What about the MA rating do people just not understand? If you don't want your kids seeing it, don't fucking buy it for them, and if they borrow it from a friend, tape it to a hammer and beat the shit out of them with it till they get it through their heads that you don't want them watching it until they move out, or at least until they can evolve enough cunning to hide it in a better place than under their mattress- The Artist Formerly Known as Grandma Dynamite's Guide to Good Parenting.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hillary Clinton (I knew she was evil) has successfully given "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas" an AO rating over this Hot Coffee Mod nonsense. For those of you who don't know, the AO rating is the NC-17 of video games. Major retailers will now refuse to carry the game. Read about it here. Brick wall

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/news_6129500.html

It's a pretty stupid decision though. The mod was, as far as I'm concerned, only effective on the PC version of the game. The AO-rated version of GTA:SA is no different from the M-rated one I bought back in October last year. Besides, it was content not meant for the player to see. That's like giving a movie the NC-17 rating over a deleted scene. Why must adult gamers like myself suffer over the idiocy of politicians, apathetic parents and the irresponsible retailers who sell M-rated games to minors?

And furthermore (this may come off sounding really strange given my rant), but why debate now over whether or not to give GTA:SA an AO rating, just because the character can have sex with other characters. What about the fact that he's killing people?!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, if ANY video game deserves an Adult tag, GTA: San Andreas, is certainly that game.

I'd probably ground my kid for a week if I caught him playing the game. Then we'd have a long talk about how walking around blowing away hookers with uzzis is not "appropriate behavior."

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clear up one thing - I don't think this porno on GTA:SA was embedded by the developers. Everything I've been hearing is that it was a patch made by someone, and it only works on the PC version. People have been doing this kind of shit for years.

Don't want your kids putting porn in games? buy them an xbox. better yet, maybe don't let them play it to begin with. There's a reason it was released with a "mature" rating.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y2mckay wrote:
Just to clear up one thing - I don't think this porno on GTA:SA was embedded by the developers. Everything I've been hearing is that it was a patch made by someone, and it only works on the PC version. People have been doing this kind of shit for years.


Actually, the sex minigame was put there by Rockstar games. They started working on it in the games early development stages, but later decided that they didn't want it for the final project and discontinued working on it.

Now here's where it gets retarded. Instead of removing the game entirely from the final project, Rockstar put in some syntax around it to block the player from ever being able to get to it. Even the console versions of GTA:SA have this minigame and syntax on it. The thing is though, that when whoever-it-was started playing GTA:SA, he was looking in the game's code for things that he could mod and stumbled upon the sex minigame. So what he did was develop a mod exclusively for the PC version of the game that overrides that syntax and allowed the user to play the underdeveloped minigame. I'm sure that if Rockstar took the extra steps necessary to simply remove the minigame entirely from the final product then they wouldn't be having this ridiculous problem and be losing millions of dollars in sales, but instead they took the easy path and painted over it, hoping that the expansive and talented mod community wouldn't stumble upon it.

Granted that it was moronic of them not to remove the minigame (as well as ignoble of them to lie and first state that they didn't originally develop the minigame), I have to say that the guy who modded the game is kind of an asshole. I can understand if he has some animosity towards Rockstar for trying to put the blame on the modding community, but what he doesn't understand is that the whole gaming community is getting the shaft from the government about this and he's doing nothing. If he would speak out to the media and tell them that the only reason that this minigame has reached the public is because of the work of third-party modding communities working outside of Rockstar games and admit that the minigame was never meant to be played at all, then perhaps the public would have a greater understanding of the situation and see things from the gaming community's point-of-view. Instead, all he's been doing is twiddling his thumbs and saying "This is all Rockstar's doing, not mine." Jerk-off.

Furthermore, to Maegs, I understand how you feel and I agree that minors shouldn't get their hands on a game like GTA:SA, but what you need to understand is that this is an act of censorship. By giving this game an AO rating, it no longer can be distributed through major retailers. It's the video game industry equivalent of the NC-17 rating. I don't see why adult gamers like myself has to suffer because of this. If parents and retail stores could do what's in their power to prevent games like this from getting into the hands of minors then the gaming industry wouldn't be suffering such huge losses and I wouldn't have to go looking for mom-and-pop game stores in order to find the games I want.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Furthermore, to Maegs, I understand how you feel and I agree that minors shouldn't get their hands on a game like GTA:SA, but what you need to understand is that this is an act of censorship. By giving this game an AO rating, it no longer can be distributed through major retailers. It's the video game industry equivalent of the NC-17 rating.


You mean that major retailers have the perogative to sell or not sell the game. That's not censorship, you can still buy the game, just not at some stores. Just because Blockbuster doesn't carry Casablanca doesn't mean they're censoring it. You get my drift.

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I don't see why adult gamers like myself has to suffer because of this. If parents and retail stores could do what's in their power to prevent games like this from getting into the hands of minors then the gaming industry wouldn't be suffering such huge losses and I wouldn't have to go looking for mom-and-pop game stores in order to find the games I want.


That's very true. Parents should do a better job at edumacating themselves on game content so that they can say "No" to junior. Retail stores should hire people that are capable of saying "No" to a sale.

However, I have absolutely no problem with a game being rated AO if it deserves it. If a game ever deserves that distinction, GTA:SA it it. If that makes it harder to find, fine. There is always online ordering.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maegs wrote:
You mean that major retailers have the perogative to sell or not sell the game. That's not censorship, you can still buy the game, just not at some stores. Just because Blockbuster doesn't carry Casablanca doesn't mean they're censoring it. You get my drift.


Yeah, I know what you mean, it's just that game developers now have to go to painful lengths to make sure their games can be sold in the vast majority of American stores. It's the same problem with "Team America: World Police" when Parker and Stone had to go to ridiculous lengths to make sure their film could get an R rating and be played in major theatres (and, strangely enough, it was over a sex scene). It still means that the developers have to edit their work so that the public can enjoy them.

Personally, a perfect world for me would be one where it would be okay for major retailers to sell an AO-rated game as long as they go to the proper lengths to make sure it doesn’t wind up in the hands of a minor. It’s not the rating I have the issue with; my problem is with major retailers concern over their public opinion that’s causing developers to jump through hoops to get their product sold in their stores. Maybe I’m being unreasonable here, but I think it’s a pain in the ass.

Besides, isn’t it kind of silly that I can walk into a Media Play or Best Buy and purchase movies like “The Toxic Avenger”, “Ichi the Killer”, and the “Guinea Pig Box Set” all on DVD, but not an AO-rated game like GTA:SA?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, it gets better...

Grandmother sues maker of 'Grand Theft Auto'

A woman upset that she bought the video game “Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas” for her 14-year-old grandson without knowing it contained hidden, sexually explicit scenes sued the manufacturer Wednesday on behalf of consumers nationwide.

(The emphasis is mine.) Who else feels like screaming right now?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theft.

sex.

Yeah, uh, which one's kind of forbidden in the 10 commandments?

So, why the problem with #2 (if THEFT/murder gets a pass)?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as there's no shark-killing in the game, it's all fine by me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What pisses is that the parents who buy these games for kids then turn around and blame the game. If you don't want your kid playing the game, do something about it, talk it over with them, DON"T buy it for them, you know, stuff like that. Don't punish the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the fucked-upness meter is about to burst.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheAngryJew wrote:
As long as there's no shark-killing in the game, it's all fine by me.


So I take it you'll be purchasing the "Jaws" game coming out Scott?

I already have it reserved.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh FUCK YES. That game looks so cool.

It IS coming out for Xbox right??
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laura wrote:
Looks like the fucked-upness meter is about to burst.


It's crap like this that makes me want to forgive conservative America for all its faults, but I don't, because then I remember that I'm a bitter asshole. Australia, which as far as I can tell has a more conservative government than the US, has been banning games all the time. I believe that they banned the past few GTA games, “Manhunt” (which was also done by Rockstar) and “Postal 2”.

In addition to that statement, what is that tight truck they got on the screencap in the article? I've beaten the game twice already and have yet to endure such unrivaled freshness.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheAngryJew wrote:
Oh FUCK YES. That game looks so cool.

It IS coming out for Xbox right??


Oh fuck yes it is- wouldn't have it any other way. Its a delayed gift for me from my wife, and I can't wait. We are currently co-playing Fantastic Four. The plot is embarassingly better than the film. They should have passed out joysticks at the theatre- but then again, that would have been 160 minutes of audience members making Jessica Alba diddle herself.

Hmmmn......
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America is a trip....a country founded by bloodthirsty Puritan fuckheads that were so annoying they were chased out of Europe...and it's as true today as back then. Our legacy continues. Kill Kill Kill, but show some ta-ta's, and the Busybody Brigade finds a new cause.

And anyone that ignores film and game ratings should be laughed out of court. Fuck this puritanical, ignorant, litigious society.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. -Let'sSueForTheSakeOfSuingAmerica' scores another point! lemme guess she decided to sue while ralphing down a bigmac


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America is a trip....a country founded by bloodthirsty Puritan fuckheads that were so annoying they were chased out of Europe...and it's as true today as back then. Our legacy continues. Kill Kill Kill, but show some ta-ta's, and the Busybody Brigade finds a new cause.

And anyone that ignores film and game ratings should be laughed out of court. Fuck this puritanical, ignorant, litigious society.
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