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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: SPECIAL FEATURES... Reply with quote

why is it that some dvd's do not have any special features, some have some, and some have many, yet the purchase price(s) do not seem to reflect this inequity...?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is it that some dvd's do not have any special features

Uh, oh. You've written something that's a major pet peeve: It's DVDs not DVD's. Mad

On the other note, it's pretty much more of the rule rather than the exception that if it's a film I like, it gets a bottom-basement treatment on DVD. It's nice to be taken by surprise occasionally, as I was when I learned that Year of the Dragon had a commentary by Michael Cimino himself.

some have some, and some have many, yet the purchase price(s) do not seem to reflect this inequity...?

Another pet peeve is a 2-disc DVD package when the special features could easily be put on the single platter; it gets about a $5-$10 price raise this way. I really hated that Criterion got the rights to one of my favorite films (1980's Hopscotch) because this single platter with only a video introduction retails at $30. Pisses me off.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oftentimes, the more obscure or unlikely-to-move-big-units a movie is, the less impressive and more expensive the DVD. Something like Spider-Man 3 can afford to have two discs full of goodies and sell for under $20, because the studio knows it's going to be a big seller, and the budget is there for extra features.

There are exceptions, of course. Certain studios are good about putting out older catalog titles that aren't heavy on the extras but are reasonably priced. Smaller outfits, of course, need to charge more to break even on titles that not many people are likely to buy. Sometimes that translates into extra goodies to please the fan base for whatever film it is, because that's probably gonna be the only customer base.

I suspect the reason for the recent trend of movie-only on one disc, extra features on the other is to make the most use of the disc space to deliver the best image and sound.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Sommersby wrote:
why is it that some dvd's do not have any special features

Uh, oh. You've written something that's a major pet peeve: It's DVDs not DVD's. Mad



thanks for that correction - i'm a stickler for that sort of thing myself (as you well know) and appreciate being set straight...(almost as much as i enjoy pointing things of this nature out to others...)

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it may be my imagination, but i recall sean penn's movies being notorious for having an obvious lack of special features...anyone else noticed that?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smrtpants wrote:

it may be my imagination, but i recall sean penn's movies being notorious for having an obvious lack of special features...anyone else noticed that?


He might be one of those "the movie should speak for itself" directors. David Lynch is often the same way. Spielberg won't do commentaries for the same reason.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Gonsalves wrote:
I suspect the reason for the recent trend of movie-only on one disc, extra features on the other is to make the most use of the disc space to deliver the best image and sound.


The trend is also rental-related. Studios offer two-discers for sale and one-discers for rent (and sale, too, hence this thread), cutting the price rental stores have to pay the studios.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Gonsalves wrote:
smrtpants wrote:

it may be my imagination, but i recall sean penn's movies being notorious for having an obvious lack of special features...anyone else noticed that?


He might be one of those "the movie should speak for itself" directors. David Lynch is often the same way. Spielberg won't do commentaries for the same reason.


Spielberg's movies often DO speak for themselves though. Even Lynch doesn't know what the FUCK his movies are about.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik The Movieman wrote:

Spielberg's movies often DO speak for themselves though. Even Lynch doesn't know what the FUCK his movies are about.


No one does, really, but for some of us they're fun to watch anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but some people pretend - which makes me want to delay-smack them like Brooke Shields in the South Park movie.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik The Movieman wrote:
Yeah, but some people pretend - which makes me want to delay-smack them like Brooke Shields in the South Park movie.


That's annoying and presumptuous. I prefer to just say "This is what I get out of it," which can then lead to discussion. Like I said in the Inland Empire review, "What does all this mean? Why try to impose meaning on it? Why not just buy the ticket and take the ride? Those who strain to provide the connective tissue for all of Lynch's digressions and images are, I think, trying to nail down a drop of mercury. They want to break the code, to master this material; but only one person can master it, and he ain't talkin'."

People get awfully antsy about stuff that doesn't have a clear-cut Meaning. (This is true in life as well as movies.) Either they compensate by crafting some master's thesis of bullshit about what it supposedly signifies, or they just shut down on it.

Comes down to whether you enjoy it, really. Some incomprehensible stuff, I really dig because for whatever intangible reason it hits the spot; other incomprehensible stuff just leaves me cold. Lynch tends to polarize people. I definitely wouldn't be telling people they should enjoy his stuff. It's love it/hate it a lot of the time. For whatever reason I respond to whatever the hell it is he's up to. Mileage will vary.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said, Rob.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Sommersby wrote:
I really hated that Criterion got the rights to one of my favorite films (1980's Hopscotch) because this single platter with only a video introduction retails at $30. Pisses me off.


You can watch it on Criterion's website now for $5.

Or you can Netflix it and burn yourself a copy, though I certainly wouldn't advise that on the record, since PIRACY IS BAD, MMMKAY.
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