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laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:57 am Post subject: THE SUSPENSE!!!

Well, Fox News is definitely reporting Bush wins way before Kerry wins... ABC was dead on, but cautious. Yahoo! news was quickest to react, and CNN was the most behind in reporting votes.

Fox News has Bush winning Ohio as of right now -- by a close margin... the rest of the stations are not touching it though.
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Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:05 am Post subject:

Yeah, there's a big fuckin' surprise from the Fox News cocksuckers.

They are currently reporting Bush at 269 and that if Kerry wins the rest of the states then there may be a tie.

Conspiracy theorists take aim because these motherfuckers must be taken down a peg.

"God, I'm ashamed to be in America today."
- Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison in JFK
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laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:30 am Post subject:

MSNBC is all over Bush winning Ohio as well... but all the votes haven't been counted yet... as Jessica Simpson would say: "Oh my gaw!"

Hold your horses! Was the 2000 mess in Florida in vain -- have we not learned anything?!?
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Chef ADogg · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 3

Honestly, I thought this outcome impossible. Who could actually look at Bush's performance over the last four years and say, "Wow, he did a pretty good job. I'd like to see what he'd do with another term"?

The sad part? If the democrats had stuck with Dean, this wouldn't even be close. We'd have a new president right now.

Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:40 am Post subject:

Yet Fox News called Ohio WAYYYYY before anyone else.

Also one of the vote specialists in Ohio was just interviewed on NBC.

Currently Bush is ahead in Ohio by about 96,000 votes (with 91% tallied). He says Bush is well past the margin-of-error in any election for Kerry to comeback with the provisional and overseas ballots. The margin-of-error according to him - 150,000. There's some fuzzy fuckin' math.
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Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:46 am Post subject:

Oz · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:56 am Post subject:

Here's how it's breaking down in Ohio right now: Ten minutes ago there was 88% of the locations reporting and Bush was 125,000 ahead. Now, they've got 89% of the locations reporting and Bush's lead is down to 93,000.

Now, what makes this interesting and still far from decisive is that, according to election officials, there are nearly 200,000 provisional ballots out there in Ohio, which are most definitely likely to swing hard to Kerry. Absentee ballots are also still in the mix and likely to be for a few days, and many of those were lodged by Democrats who didn't trust the electronic voting machines.

It is way too close to call, even though Fox is pulling their old stunt of calling it early and trying to convince other media outlets to go along with them.

Chef ADogg · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 3

But the question remains: Why is this even fucking close? Who are these people that support Bush, and where do they come from? Where do they get their news? I am sincerely baffled.

laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:12 am Post subject:

Peter Jennings is being pretty stubborn about it.

Ah, you're still hopeful, Chris! Very Happy

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Oz · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:19 am Post subject:

Yes, Fox and one network are giving it to Bush, but nobody else is giving up an inch. In fact, I hear Kerry will make a speech any moment now, but it ain't no concession speech.

The Republicans have been challenging voters' eligibility in Ohio for WEEKS now, and those votes must be counted eventually. While their number is twice the size of the gap between the candidates, you have to think this thing is going to be closer than Fox wants us to think.

Additionally, If Kerry loses Ohio and wins the other states still to be decided (possible, it's neck and neck or advantage him in all of them) - it could come down to a 269-269 tie.

*That* will end up nasty, no doubt.

Chef (good to see you back here, by the way), I wish I could answer your question. In Ohio the incumbents did a tricky thing - they put a gay marriage referendum on the ballot, which managed to get a whole load of usually lazy right wingers off their asses to vote, and of course they'd be likely to vote for Bush while they were up off the couch.

But I think what's really made this thing swing the way it has has been lack of education. And by that I mean actual education AND factual information on the candidates, the current administration, and the pros/cons of both.

I-K · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:22 am Post subject:

Chef ADogg · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 3

Let's say you don't know that much about the candidates, but you want to do your civic duty and vote. Well, how would one make such a decision? I would say by watching the fucking debates, for starters. If you can't even be bothered to spend three nights watching the candidates discuss the issues, you shouldn't be allowed to cast your ballot. We're talking about FOUR MORE YEARS of Bush here. Who knows what the hell he'll do when he doesn't have to worry about re-election anymore? Anyways, what I'm trying to say is this: even if someone lacked formal education and didn't know much about the candidates, wouldn't watching the debates provide the information necessary to make a decision in the voting booth? And if you can't even be bothered to watch the debates, why would you leave your house and go vote?

And I'm assuming that anyone who watched all three debates recognized Kerry as the only sane choice.

laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:31 am Post subject:

Well, all I know is my dad is very sharp in his politics, he is a huge history buff, he knows his crap... he certainly watched the debates and he's not a big fan of Bush, but he has serious reasons for disliking Kerry -- it's actually beyond my head a bit... I'm pretty sure he voted for Bush, though he's probably more of a reluctant republican.

I think it's an ideology thing.
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Oz · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:33 am Post subject:

Perhaps this explains it...

Meanwhile, over the weekend, “Stolen Honor” found an even wider broadcast outlet than Sinclair would have provided, when the conservative, Florida-based news Web site NewsMax.com spent $294,500 to buy infomercial time for the film on the Pax broadcast network, which reaches nearly 90 per cent of U.S. homes with televisions. The film aired 10 times. Pax spokeswoman Nancy Udell said the film wasn’t part of Pax programming, and added that the network sells political advertising to all buyers so long as the ad conforms to the rules, including being clearly labeled. She said the group asked about ad rates “several weeks ago,” but only placed the ad buy last week.

Political infommercials now. I mean... fuck off.

TheAngryJew · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:23 am Post subject:

I'm so proud. Kerry won Pennsylvania, due in large part to Philadelphia County. Check the numbers: 80% of all votes in Philly...went to Kerry!

80%!!
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frankgrimes · Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 209 Location: Chicago

I can't believe it, but I am proud of my state for voting for Obama than Keys.
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Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:09 am Post subject:

The fuckin' pussy just conceded. God help us all!
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laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:11 am Post subject:

Yep.

Am I correct in saying about 12 to 13 million more people voted in this election than in 2000? Is this the greatest voter turnout -- considering that our population has grown?
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Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:15 am Post subject:

So, the Solaranite bomb has been re-elected and 58 million sheep who probably think Pearl Harbor is a great movie also believe we're a stronger nation with him in the White House.

Allow me the first to say "You see? YOU SEE? Your stupid minds. STUPID! STUPID!"
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laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:16 am Post subject:

You know... Bush's celebrating makes Kerry look classy for conceeding.
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laura · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:

Hey, Pearl Harbor was a masterpiece. I mean, Alec Baldwin, he was amazing in it.
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Erik The Movieman · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:23 am Post subject: